[[Žmogaus tyrimai]]

[[Išėjimas už savęs]], [[Meilės mokslas]]

Priimame Dievo požiūrį, kad mūsų ir jo žvilgsniai sutaptų
* We take up God's view because that opens up a vantage point that he might take up so that our views might coincide. And by taking up, alternatively, his view upon our view and ours upon his, ever deeper, the idea is that we do not diminish or close our view at all, but instead enrich it by exposing it to God's and our view through it. Finally, the Other is very important as the vehicle for shared understanding, in that the way that we treat others is the way that God may treat us, as we allow God to use us as a vehicle in reaching out to others. We may not be absolutely transparent like God, but yet we might be transparent for the purpose of him reaching out to others. And this transparency may be what is relevant in our view coinciding with God's.''

Dievui rūpi, kad jo požiūris būtų prieinamas visiems kitiems
* The main idea in all of this, perhaps, is how God makes available his Godly perspective to all of those beyond him, which is an increasing challenge until it reaches the stretching point. In this sense God shares perspective, and even more, goes beyond that to all those who might position themselves for his perspective - and through them others may be reached just as through him - it starts from them as it did with him.

Žmogaus ir Dievo požiūrių grandinė grindžia suvokimo lygmenis
* Therefore we have all, any, a and no perspectives. These are four increasingly focused '''LevelsOfUnderstanding'''. Understanding is the keeping separate of Concepts. (A concept is that which is with itself). It is also the distinction of one perspective (anything) upon another perspective (everything) (and of that perspective from slack). (To have a perspective is to go beyond oneself). This allows for a sequence of ever deeper (ever closer) Scopes which may be shared. Love is the sharing of a scope. We therefore have a sequence of ever deeper levels of love. They ground the ever greater Independence of the one who is loved (and understood): Self, Other, God. At the fourth level, LoveGod, God's view and human's view coincide (''love absolutely'') regarding the Good, so that both share the same view of ''God's view of human's view of God's view of human's view''. All of the Structure that I am aware of rests in one of these four levels.

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[+Užrašai+]

'''Atsisakyti sąmoningumo (rinktis Dievą (sąmoningumą?) vietoj asmens)'''

'''Gyventi sąmoningai (rinktis asmenį vietoj asmenybės, rinktis asmenybę vietoj pasaulio)'''

Gyventi pasirenkant kodėl, sąmoningumą

Gyventi Dievo valia. Paklusti, tikėti, rūpėti

Atskirti save ir pasaulį
* Ženklų savybės (keturių lygmenų poros) virsta šešerybe (dviem trejybėmis) kuomet sutelkiame dėmesį nuo vaizduotės peršamo, menamo pasaulio į save. Tokiu būdu padalinimo galimybė jau glūdi šešerybėje, santykyje su savimi.
* Susitelkimas į save kaip į daiktą grindžia visko padalinimą į save ir pasaulį.
* Santykiu su savimi įvaldome ryšių visumą ir tą visumą pranokstame savo nepakankamumu.
* Savimi, prisiimdami atsakomybę už save, atveriame atsakomybę bendrai.

'''Gyventi šešiomis lygmenų poromis'''

Keturiomis apytakomis išgyvename šešis santykius su savo apimtimis

* Tam turi liudyti kiekvienas žmogus, kiekvienas iš mūsų.

Keturiomis apytakomis išgyvename santykius su savo apimtimis
* Apytakos išsako asmenų santykius su savo apimtimis, savo būklėmis, ir apskritai, su vaizduote.
* Visi santykiai vyksta per dvasią, dargi tie santykiai gali reikštis šiais tolimesniais pavidalais, kuriuos atitinkamai išgyvena Dievas, Aš, Tu, Kitas. Dievo dvasia yra pirm visko ir už visko, tad jos santykiu iškyla viskas. O kiti asmenys ir jų dvasių pavidalai yra viskame. Kiekvieno asmens santykį su viskuo išsako atitinkama apytaka. Asmenys ir jų apytakos nusako viską. Iš Dievo išplaukia asmenys ir jų apytakos, kartu ir viskas.
* Santykiai įsivaizduojami statiškai ketverybės lygmenimis: kodėl yra viskas - dvasia, kaip yra viskas - sandaromis, koks yra viskas - atvaizdais, ar yra viskas - sąvokomis.
* Šiuos santykius galima išsakyti sąvokomis ir įsivaizduoti atvaizdais tačiau juos tenka išgyventi savo išgyventais požiūriais ir dargi priskirti Dievo dvasiai.
Santykius su keturiomis apimtimis išgyvename šešiais atvaizdais
* Tie santykiai įsivaizduojami šešeriopai atvaizdais. Jie įsivaizduojami dinamiškai laisvumo atvaizdais, išsiskleidimu iš nežinojimo į žinojimą ir susitelkimu iš žinojimo į nežinojimą taikymo riboje. Jie vyksta per dvasią ir toliau reiškiasi per (išgyvenamų požiūrių) sandarą, (vaizduotės pasirenkamus) atvaizdus ir (sąvokų) vieningumą.

* Simbolį laikyti simboliu (nulybė tarp jų), ne kažkuo kitu.

Galime ne tiktai gyventi vaizduotėje bet ją pranokti. Tai yra žinojimo taikymo pagrindas.

[+Vaizduotės pranokimo galimybės+]

Galime ne tiktai gyventi vaizduotėje bet ją pranokti.

Vaizduotės gyvenimas
* Vaizduote mąsto betką - savo ribomis - vienumu. Mąsto kažką - savo pastangomis - vienumu.
* Vaizduotė aprėpia savasties galimybes, tiek vidines, tiek išorines, tad veiksmus +1, +2, +3, tiek iš vidaus, tiek išore, tad išsako laipsnyną. O kaip su 4+2 ?
* Neįsivaizduojame Dievo ir gerumo, bet tik jų šešis santykius.

Troškimais ir netroškimais
* Išmintis. Viską žinoti, tai mąstyti plačiau už betką, pridėti Dievą (viską) ir gerumą (laisvumą), kaip kad išmintimi, taip pat aštuongubu keliu.
* Gera valia ir gera širdis. Gera valia galima įžvelgti ir išskirti visko atvaizdus - troškimus - ir juos atskirti nuo laisvumo atvaizdų - tapatumų - ir taip atskyrus gyventi aštuoniomis gėrio kryptimis iš geros širdies ir į gerą širdį. Ogi Dievas yra gera širdis, nulinė gėrio kryptis. Tad galima atverti galimybes pripažinti Dievą už mūsų ir taip pat gyventi Dievu mumyse.

Žmogaus ir Dievo požiūriai, žvilgsniai
* Apibrėžtas žvilgsnis ir neapibrėžtas žvilgsnis (definite view, indefinite view)

* Dievo žvilgsnis ir žmogaus žvilgsnis. Human, Access, God. Human is the access that God has to himself as Observer to Observed. That access is either Everything, Anything, Something or Nothing. It manifests itself either as a connection made by the human (as in life), or as the clearing of a way, which keeps separate, and allows God to manifest himself (as in eternal life). The Observer is within the human, is within the system, whereas the Observed is beyond any system. Human is definite access, whereas God is indefinite access, from either one direction (Observed) or the other direction (Observer). Human stays within himself. Human is self-limited. God goes beyond himself. God is self-unlimited. God goes beyond himself into human. God is prior to human, for God goes beyond himself into human, and yet human stays within himself. Human is God within a system.
* Human's view is self-limited, thus defined with regard to a definite scope. God's view is self-unlimited, thus defined with regard to an indefinite scope.
Požiūrį ar visus požiūrius
* Human's view is grounded in the system, and God's view is beyond the system. Hence human's view is unified, it is "a" view, whereas God's view is complete, it is all views.

Dievo požiūris į žmogaus požiūrį. Žmogaus požiūris į Dievo požiūrį.

* Šią grandinę pavaizduoja išmintingas pasiklydęs vaikas, kuris neieško savo tėvų, bet supranta, kad būtent jo ieškos, tad eina ten kur jo tėvai jo ieškotų.

Žmogaus ir Dievo požiūriai
* Nežinojimas: Dievo požiūris, žinojimas: žmogaus požiūris

Žmogaus ir Dievo požiūrių grandinė
* Galima kurti grandines: žinau, kad nežinai, kad žinau, kad nežinai ir t.t.

Tiesa apimtyse, nuo minkštos iki kietos
* Truth is that by which we can be responsive even if we are not sensitive. Truth is that by which the human voice coincides with God's view. The extent of coinciding is given by that level in which God expresses himself, as coinciding is through God, in that he comes to us, that is the essence of coinciding.

Požiūrio padalinimas į dvi dalis
* Padalinimas į pusę yra sutapimo priešingybė. Consider four degrees of bisection as given by the distance of separation: by everything, anything, something or nothing. See BisectingAView, the splitting of the human mind (by the eightfold way), and how that relates to loving enemy (which requires a twofold mind and relates to loving God), and bisection is separating of human view and God's view.

Suvokimas / meilė ir sandara / savastis

Sutapimas. Dievo požiūrio priėmimas.
* Kaip žmogus gali atsisakyti savęs, atsiplėšti nuo savęs ir priimti Dievo požiūrį? Jis gali kviesti Dievą priimti jojo požiūrį, taip kad jie sutampa.

Priimti požiūrį, žvilgsnį
* Priimti požiūrį, tai priimti rėmus, aplinkybes, ribotumą sandarų atžvllgiu.

Priimti Dievo požiūrį
* God's is unlimited, and so his structural limits are unlimited structure, which is Everything. Hence his view is given by everything, and to take up his view is to take everything as our own structural limits.

Smegenys ir protas.

Žmogaus požiūris ir Dievo požiūris
* Human's view is self-limited, thus defined with regard to a definite scope. God's view is self-unlimited, thus defined with regard to an indefinite scope.

Žmogaus požiūris į Dievo požiūrį, Dievo požiūris į žmogaus požiūrį
* Žvilgsnis yra kieno nors požiūris

Pažinti ir išeiti už savęs
* To see is to be sensitive to a view - it is to receive within ourselves. To go beyond oneself is to respond from one self.

Savastis ir žvilgsnis
* Self and view are structural flipsides, and they tend towards different spiritual extrapolations: unity and completeness. View is the extent to which we are sensitive, and self is the extent to which we are responsive.

Atliepumas ir jautrumas.
* Atliepumas už jautrumo. This means that responsiveness is more important than sensitivity, for when we are responsive, then it is the God beyond us, beyond system, who responds through us. We may not be sensitive as to why to respond, and yet we can still respond on behalf of that which is beyond us. So obedience, faith, caring all help us to respond even if we are not sensitive. Eternal life is when we are responsive beyond our sensitivity.
* To sense is for the unity to go out (be unobstructed) and return (be familiar). To respond is for the completeness to go in (be familiar) and return (be unobstructed). Life is what is both responsive and sensitive, thus is an endless flickering.

Laisvė ir tiesa
* The truth is that which lets us respond without being sensitive. In this sense, the truth sets us free - it lets us step outside the system that we find ourselves in. It also lets us reach others and them reach us across great divides.

Pažintasis ir pažinovas

Gyvenimas (sutapimas) ir amžinas gyvenimas (atskyrimas)
* Life is the goodness of God. Life is the connection of goodness (God inside) and God (God outside). God inside us is the one who is the Observer. God outside of us is the one who is Observed. God sees himself through us, and likewise, he is seen by himself through us. Life is that God sees through us, but eternal life is that God is seen through us. The former is fleeting, but the latter has us matter forever. Eternal life is the understanding of the goodness of God. Eternal life is the separation (the understanding) of goodness and God.
* Esame santvarka. Gyvenimas yra sutapimas Dievo (už mūsų) ir gerumo (Dievo mumyse). Amžinas gyvenimas, tai jų atskyrimas. Vieningumas ir gerumas yra Dievo savybės, galiojančios bet kurioje santvarkoje.

Meilė ir begalinė meilė
* Love vs. endless love. Love is what connects within the system, by going from God to good, and EndlessLove is what separates by connecting with that which is beyond the system, by going from good to God. So love is BeingOneWith. Love is being Unified, and EndlessLove is being Complete, but the nature of both - and the nature of God - is BeingOneWith. The nature of God within the system is love, and the nature of God beyond the system is endless love, which is to say, God. We may think of endless love as absolute love.

Ką reiškia gražiai taikyti
* to be Responsive as God is through us. It is to respond as God would respond through our self, and thus to go beyond our self. To apply usefully is to achieve our full potential. This means that it is reached by that which is deepest in us, which is most familiar, which is our truest self, and is our deepest unity. Our potential is achieved when our deepest unity is engaged, when it responds.

** Kaip tarnavimas Dievui susijęs su sandoromis kurias siūlytumėme Dievui arba jisai mums?

* Kaip Dievas yra būtinas?
** Pradedant Kitu, kaip Dievas iškyla susivokimu?
** Peržiūrėti rodą ''Trokštu išmanyti'' ir naujai suprasti.
** Kokios sąvokos svarbios Dievo būtinumui?
*** Kaip Dievo būtinumui svarbios sąvokos glūdi jo nebūtinumo raidoje?

[[Išėjimas už savęs]], [[Viską žinoti]], [[Meilės mokslas]]

Žmogaus ar gerumo išėjimas už savęs iš savęs

[+Žmogaus ir Dievo požiūrių grandinė+]

Visos sandaros išplaukia iš augantį sąmoningumą išreiškiančios požiūrio grandinės: žmogaus požiūris į Dievo požiūrį į žmogaus požiūrį į Dievo požiūrį į žmogaus požiūrį. Požiūrių grandinę pavaizduoja pasiklydęs vaikas kuris, būdamas išmintingas, neieško savo tėvų, bet supranta, kad būtent jo ieškos, tad eina ten kur jo tėvai jo ieškotų. Šitą mintį vysčiau dorovės tyrimu, jos septyniomis pakopomis.

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'''Vaizduotės pranokimas'''

Vaizduotės pranokimo sąlygos
* Kai pažįsti savo vaizduotę, gali ją pranokti, teisingai rinktis ir nesuklyst, nenuklyst.
* Vaizduotė išsakoma šešiais atvaizdais, o juos papildo tai kas pranoksta vaizduotę, Dievas už santvarkos ir Dievas santvarkoje - gerumas.


Vaizduotės pranokimas

* Pirmapradis Dievas neturi jokio požiūrio. Dievo požiūris atsiranda su žmogaus požiūriu. Dievo požiūris atsiranda esant apimtims: viskas ir niekas.
* ŽDŽDŽ - susikalbėjimas yra pradžia suvokimo lygmenims: ŽDŽD bendras suvokimas, ŽDŽ savęs suvokimas, ŽD suvokimas.
* Susitelkimas į save kaip į daiktą grindžia visko padalinimą į save ir pasaulį.
* Prie vaizduotės pridedam Dievą už santvarkos ir Dievą (gerumą) santvarkoje. Jais dviem iškyla padalinimas į Dievą ir gerumą.
* Ženklų savybės (keturių lygmenų poros) virsta šešerybe (dviem trejybėmis) kuomet sutelkiame dėmesį nuo vaizduotės peršamo, menamo pasaulio į save. Tokiu būdu padalinimo galimybė jau glūdi šešerybėje, santykyje su savimi.
* Santykiu su savimi įvaldome ryšių visumą ir tą visumą pranokstame savo nepakankamumu.
* Priimdami Dievą iš už santvarkos ir jį įžvelgdami santvarkoje pripažįstame ir galimybė, kad jisai yra už santvarkos, tad santvarką suprantame kaip ribą tarp dviejų galimybių, tad pagrindą pasirinkimui, padalinimui.
* Žmogus renkasi tarp vaizduotės ir suvokimo ašių ketverybėje, penkerybėje, šešerybėje, septynerybėje
* Kaip netroškimai pranoksta lapisnynus?
* Kokiu tikslu pranokti vaizduotę?
* Kaip įmanoma kalbėti be vaizduotės?
* Kaip įmanoma mąstyti be vaizduotės?
* Vienas Dievas veda į prieštaravimą.
* Vaizduotės kaliniai gali būti laisvi
* Dvilypumu ištrūkstame iš vaizduotės, santvarkos
* Dvilypumas atsieti nulybę ir vienybę
* Išpuoselėjam tarpą tarp ašių
* Dorybėmis išskiriame ar ir koks, kaip ir kodėl
* Paklusti, tikėti, rūpėti
* Trejybės ratas
* Padalinti požiūrį
* Priskirti vieną pusę besąlygiškumui
* Išskirti savo sąlygišką ir Dievo besąlygišką požiūrį
* Atlupa suvokimo klodus
* ŽDŽDŽ -> ŽD
* Telkia šviesuolių bendrystę
* Suvokimas - įsiminti, rūpėti, pagrįsti
* Savęs suvokimas - įreikšminti, tikėti, įvardinti
* Bendras suvokimas - įprasminti, paklusti, pasakoti
* Susikalbėjimas - už vienybės - visko, yra nulybė - Dievas
* Stygos = vertybės
* Savastis bręsta
* Kūnas - daiktas, protas - ikona, širdis - indeksas, valia - simbolis
* Išorines vertybes galim įsisavinti
* Gyventi išore ar vidumi
* Vienybė P->P, nulybė D<-Ž
* Brandą išgyvename
* Atsiremiam į besąlygiškumą
* Susilaikyti
* Susikalbėti
* Sąmoningumą įsiminti, įreikšminti, įprasminti
* Kitame atlupti Dievą
* Tikslas vieningai susistyguoti
* Meile, artimumu, žavesiu žmogus persimeta tarp sąmonės ir pasąmonės kalbomis
* Simbolį laikyti simboliu (nulybė)
* Žmogaus simbolių lygmenyje sąmoningas

* Gerumas = Žinojimo gražus taikymas. Sūnus mato Tėvą už santvarkos. Santvarką išplečia Dievu.

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[[Išėjimas už savęs]], [[Suvestinė]], [[Viską žinoti]], [[Meilės mokslas]]

[[Išėjimas už savęs]], [[Suvestinė]], [[Meilės mokslas]]

* Dievas neišeina už savęs - "būk tobulas".
* Gali būti, kad visas gyvumas, visa dinamika, visos kalbos, išgyvenimai, plėtojasi pasirinkimais, atsiremiantys kodėl, išplaukiantys iš žmogaus link Dievo.
* Žmogui tvirtėjant pasirinkimais, įsisavinant išorinį gerumą, jisai gali labiau remtis pasąmone, įgūdžiais, labiau nežinojimu, mažiau žinojimu.
* Troškimai-netroškimai, taipogi atjautos, išsako neišėjimą už savęs be lygmens kodėl, ir išsako išėjimą už savęs, už vaizduotės, lygmeniu kodėl.
* Gerumas = Žinojimo gražus taikymas. Sūnus mato Tėvą už santvarkos. Santvarką išplečia Dievu.

* Nebijoti prieštaravimo, jo aplinkos.
* Dievas neišeina už savęs - "būk tobulas".

* 4+2 -> 3+3 -> 1+3+3+1
* Nebijoti prieštaravimo, jo aplinkos.

* Neįsivaizduojame Dievo ir gerumo, bet tik jų šešis santykius.
* Vaizduotę pranoksta Dievo neišėjimas už savęs ir gerumo neišėjimas į save.
* 4+2 -> 3+3 -> 1+3+3+1

* Understanding (and Love) and Structure (and Self).

Žinojimo taikymas - sąmoningėjimas ir sąmoningumas.

Vaizduotės pranokimas - gražus taikymas.
* Viską žinoti, tai mąstyti plačiau už betką, pridėti Dievą (viską) ir gerumą (laisvumą).
* Mąstyti plačiau už vaizduotę 1+6+1 = 1+4+2+1 = 4x2 = 1+3+3+1
* Vaizduote mąsto betką - savo ribomis - vienumu. Mąsto kažką - savo pastangomis - vienumu.
* Už vaizduotės yra viskas ir niekas, ketverybės dieviška ašis.
* Mąstyti nulybę už vienybės.
* Vaizduotė aprėpia savasties galimybes, tiek vidines, tiek išorines, tad veiksmus +1, +2, +3, tiek iš vidaus, tiek išore, tad išsako laipsnyną. O kaip su 4+2 ?
* Nežinojimas pranoksta vaizduotę.
* Neįsivaizduojame Dievo ir gerumo, bet tik jų šešis santykius.

* Understanding (and Love) and Structure (and Self).

Dievo valia yra visko įsisąmonijimas, tai išminties (visko žinojimo) gražus taikymas (gera valia), tad amžino gyvenimo raiška - tėra kas reiškiasi.

Dievo valia yra visko įsisąmonijimas, tai išminties (visko žinojimo) gražus taikymas (gera valia), tad amžino gyvenimo raiška - tėra tai kas reiškiasi.

Dievo valia yra visko įsisąmonijimas, tai išminties (visko žinojimo) gražus taikymas (gera valia), tad amžino gyvenimo raiška.

* Understanding (and Love) and Structure (and Self). Kaip susiję Dievo išsiskleidimai

* Kaip savo gyvenime tarnauti savam Dievui? (ir kaip tai susiję su sandoromis kurias siūlytumėme Dievui arba jisai mums?)

'''Kaip įvairiai taikyti visko žinojimą?'''

* Bisecting a view. Consider bisecting as the opposite of coinciding, and four degrees of bisection as given by the distance of separation: by everything, anything, something or nothing. See BisectingAView, the splitting of the human mind (by the eightfold way), and how that relates to loving enemy (which requires a twofold mind and relates to loving God), and bisection is separating of human view and God's view.

Kaip sutapimas susijęs su požiūrių grandine, suvokimu, susikalbėjimu, gyvenimo lygtimi?

* Understanding (and Love) and Structure (and Self). Kaip susiję Dievo išsiskleidimai

Žr. [[Meilės mokslas]]

* Viską žinoti ir gražiai taikyti. What is God's interest? God's interest is not that we simply access our full potential, but that we achieve it. More important than knowing everything is that we apply such knowledge usefully. It is useful if it regards our Life. Indeed, knowledge about our life is that knowledge which we avoid as it holds us accountable to the extent that we are. We avoid this knowledge by not being clear of soul.
* Tikslas: meilė. Love is the support of life. To have knowledge of life is the nature of love, and to apply that knowledge is the practice of love. Love is what is important to God and why the knowledge of everything is relevant to him. It is relevant as a framework for the practice of love.
* OpenOurselves (GoodWill). In seeing through us, God relates to himself as Observer and Observed, and in practice, as lover and loved. His relationship becomes one of practice when we open ourselves and are transparent to him. This is our calling. Our knowing everything is not essential to our calling, but may support our calling as we identify with him and his love. Yet it is enough for us to open ourselves that through us he may love. Thus the knowledge of everything may, from God's point of view, be understood as the story of love as the support of life, and how we participate by opening ourselves to that relationship.
* Life is the goodness of God. Life is the connection of goodness (God inside) and God (God outside). Life is the goodness of God. God inside us is the one who is the Observer. God outside of us is the one who is Observed. God sees himself through us, and likewise, he is seen by himself through us. Life is that God sees through us, but eternal life is that God is seen through us. The former is fleeting, but the latter has us matter forever. Eternal life is the understanding of the goodness of God. Eternal life is the separation (the understanding) of goodness and God.
* Endless Love. God's love supports eternal life. Life is the connection from Observer to Observed through us, and love is the support for this connection. But eternal life is the separation of Observed from Observer by allowing for our freedom in the gaps. And God's love is the support for this separation.
* Love vs. endless love. Love is what connects within the system, by going from God to good, and EndlessLove is what separates by connecting with that which is beyond the system, by going from good to God. So love is BeingOneWith. Love is being Unified, and EndlessLove is being Complete, but the nature of both - and the nature of God - is BeingOneWith. The nature of God within the system is love, and the nature of God beyond the system is endless love, which is to say, God. We may think of endless love as absolute love.
* Love God. We always love the good, but if we separate God and good, then that is a greater love, for we then love God. To love God is to LoveYourEnemy, and perhaps to love good is to LoveYourNeighborAsYourself, to love the one who is good to you. We can't know if God is good to us, for God is so much bigger than us, and it may always turn out that he is bad to us. In this sense, to love God is to be responsive where we are not sensitive. We are able to love even when we have no reason why - we are able to project our generalizations even when we have no data to support them. We are free to choose.


Dievo žvilgsnis ir žmogaus žvilgsnis
* Human, Access, God. Human is the access that God has to himself as Observer to Observed. That access is either Everything, Anything, Something or Nothing. It manifests itself either as a connection made by the human (as in life), or as the clearing of a way, which keeps separate, and allows God to manifest himself (as in eternal life). The Observer is within the human, is within the system, whereas the Observed is beyond any system. Human is definite access, whereas God is indefinite access, from either one direction (Observed) or the other direction (Observer). Human stays within himself. Human is self-limited. God goes beyond himself. God is self-unlimited. God goes beyond himself into human. God is prior to human, for God goes beyond himself into human, and yet human stays within himself. Human is God within a system.
* Chains. The chains take us from either Observer to Observed (through stepping in) or from Observed to Observer (through stepping out). Which is eternal life?
* Self and View. Their Self is their View. In what sense is a view itself related to our limits that we stay within or not? Our view is like a cone that we stay within, like a space time cone, whereas God's view is complementary, in that he goes beyond his and into ours.
* Human's view vs. God's view. Human's view is self-limited, thus defined with regard to a definite scope. God's view is self-unlimited, thus defined with regard to an indefinite scope.
* Human's view of God's view vs. God's view of human's view. Human's view of God's view is the flowthrough that is possible for a definite scope - it is the realization, the fulfillment, the making vital of the potential of that scope, it is everything that could possibly flow through that scope. And that can be understood through two directions - observer: flow out through a human's definite scope, or observed: constraints, limits upon indefiniteness. The two directions are correlated. And that way it is possible to consider all possiblities. That is God's view of human's view - the running through of all possibilities.
* Coinciding. How does human step away from himself and take up God's view? He can do so by inviting God to take up his view, so that they coincide.
* Taking up a view. What does it mean to take up a view? It is to take up our structural limits.
* Taking up God's view. God's is unlimited, and so his structural limits are unlimited structure, which is Everything. Hence his view is given by everything, and to take up his view is to take everything as our own structural limits.
* A view vs. All views. Human's view is grounded in the system, and God's view is beyond the system. Hence human's view is unified, it is "a" view, whereas God's view is complete, it is all views.
* Human's view of God's view. Human's view of God's view is how we choose God over ourselves, how we coincide with God. Human's view of God's view is a recurring structure because it is unity of completeness, which is to say, it is the most direct way of presenting God in structure, perhaps as "everything". It is the building block for all structure.
* The levels of Truth from soft to hard. Truth is that by which we can be responsive even if we are not sensitive. Truth is that by which the human voice coincides with God's view. The extent of coinciding is given by that level in which God expresses himself, as coinciding is through God, in that he comes to us, that is the essence of coinciding.

Kam žinoti viską?
* If we could "know everything", then I think that might leverage our own testimonies of life as organized by our key concepts, like a sky full of stars, each encompassing the whole sky, and bringing it to a point of intense self-knowledge. The "knowledge of everything" would help us know how our key concepts unfold, how they relate, how we might navigate them and work together, so that we might live by all of our intuition, rather than just our own. It would show that each of us has a vantage point which of all people we know most intensely, and which is the source of our own language yet analogous to that of others. Similarly, I think that a "sustainable pattern language" might best be organized as a repository of case studies of how "local centers" function around the world (including one's own home) and a "knowledge of everything" would theoretically generate the many patterns of activity that we might find.

Kokių pajėgumų siekiame:
* express and comprehend anybody's intuition regarding what they know intuitively
* translate across private languages, making use of a conceptual language of universal structures
* generate and catalogue the patterns of recurring activity (as in Christopher Alexander's The Pattern Language) which evoke the world around us that we live in
* converse with God and engage his will and live by it
* train ourselves, to learn to live hyperflexibly like Jesus, as a person-in-general who does what any good person would do, rather than as a person-in-particular who focuses on what makes them different
* reach out to others, engage them, and help them grow
* cooperate in working out various portion of these challenges
* trespond effectively to challenges to people throughout the world

Kam šviesuolių bendrystė
* Bendrystė leidžia mums suvesti ir įprasminti kiekvieną įnašą, kurį žmogus norėtų įnešti

Ką reiškia gražiai taikyti
* to be Responsive as God is through us. It is to respond as God would respond through our self, and thus to go beyond our self. To apply usefully is to achieve our full potential. This means that it is reached by that which is deepest in us, which is most familiar, which is our truest self, and is our deepest unity. Our potential is achieved when our deepest unity is engaged, when it responds.

Išvirkštinės sąvokos
* Smegenys ir protas.
* Observe vs. Go beyond oneself. To see is to be sensitive to a view - it is to receive within ourselves. To go beyond oneself is to respond from one self.
* Self vs. View. Self and view are structural flipsides, and they tend towards different spiritual extrapolations: unity and completeness. View is the extent to which we are sensitive, and self is the extent to which we are responsive.
* Sensitive, Responsive. To sense is for the unity to go out (be unobstructed) and return (be familiar). To respond is for the completeness to go in (be familiar) and return (be unobstructed). Life is what is both responsive and sensitive, thus is an endless flickering.
* System, Good. There is a duality of structure. So the big question is, which is primary, unity or completeness? I think that the answer is completeness. God is beyond us, beyond any system, and as such he is complete. God within a system is unity, and as such he is good.
* Gyvenimas (sutapimas) ir Amžinas gyvenimas (atskyrimas). We are that system. Life is the coinciding of these two - God outside us and within us - God and good. Eternal life is the separation of the two, so that unity and goodness are qualities of God's as they hold within a system, any system.
* Responsivity beyond sensitivity. This means that responsiveness is more important than sensitivity, for when we are responsive, then it is the God beyond us, beyond system, who responds through us. We may not be sensitive as to why to respond, and yet we can still respond on behalf of that which is beyond us. So obedience, faith, caring all help us to respond even if we are not sensitive. Eternal life is when we are responsive beyond our sensitivity.
* Truth, Freedom. The truth is that which lets us respond without being sensitive. In this sense, the truth sets us free - it lets us step outside the system that we find ourselves in. It also lets us reach others and them reach us across great divides.
* Observed, Observer. This suggests that God as observed (and complete) is primary because God as observer (and unified) makes sense only within a system, as he is observing through us. Or am I mistaken? This is important to think about. The logic is that, in the beginning, God was available to be observed. But nobody was there to observe him. So he observed himself. He went beyond himself to become an observer and thereby he created us, a system through which he might observe himself.

Kaip įvairiai taikyti visko žinojimą?

To apply usefully is to be Responsive as God is through us. It is to respond as God would respond through our self, and thus to go beyond our self. To apply usefully is to achieve our full potential. This means that it is reached by that which is deepest in us, which is most familiar, which is our truest self, and is our deepest unity. Our potential is achieved when our deepest unity is engaged, when it responds.

observe vs. go beyond oneself

Self vs. View

Sensitive, Responsive

System, Good

Life, Coinciding

EternalLife, Separation

responsivity beyond sensitivity

Truth, Freedom

Observed, Observer

Gospel of John

KnowEverything vs. ApplyUsefully

What is God's interest? God's interest is not that we simply access our full potential, but that we achieve it. More important than knowing everything is that we apply such knowledge usefully. It is useful if it regards our Life. Indeed, knowledge about our life is that knowledge which we avoid as it holds us accountable to the extent that we are. We avoid this knowledge by not being clear of soul.

Love

Love is the support of life. To have knowledge of life is the nature of love, and to apply that knowledge is the practice of love. Love is what is important to God and why the knowledge of everything is relevant to him. It is relevant as a framework for the practice of love.

OpenOurselves (GoodWill)

In seeing through us, God relates to himself as Observer and Observed, and in practice, as lover and loved. His relationship becomes one of practice when we open ourselves and are transparent to him. This is our calling. Our knowing everything is not essential to our calling, but may support our calling as we identify with him and his love. Yet it is enough for us to open ourselves that through us he may love. Thus the knowledge of everything may, from God's point of view, be understood as the story of love as the support of life, and how we participate by opening ourselves to that relationship.

Life is the goodness of God

Eternal life is the understanding of the goodness of God

EndlessLove

love vs. endless love

Love is what connects within the system, by going from God to good, and EndlessLove is what separates by connecting with that which is beyond the system, by going from good to God. So love is BeingOneWith. Love is being Unified, and EndlessLove is being Complete, but the nature of both - and the nature of God - is BeingOneWith. The nature of God within the system is love, and the nature of God beyond the system is endless love, which is to say, God. We may think of endless love as absolute love.

LoveGod

God's view and Human's view

Human, Access, God

Human is the access that God has to himself as Observer to Observed. That access is either Everything, Anything, Something or Nothing. It manifests itself either as a connection made by the human (as in life), or as the clearing of a way, which keeps separate, and allows God to manifest himself (as in eternal life). The Observer is within the human, is within the system, whereas the Observed is beyond any system. Human is definite access, whereas God is indefinite access, from either one direction (Observed) or the other direction (Observer). Human stays within himself. Human is self-limited. God goes beyond himself. God is self-unlimited. God goes beyond himself into human. God is prior to human, for God goes beyond himself into human, and yet human stays within himself. Human is God within a system.

Chains

Self and View

Their Self is their View. In what sense is a view itself related to our limits that we stay within or not? Our view is like a cone that we stay within, like a space time cone, whereas God's view is complementary, in that he goes beyond his and into ours.

Human's view vs. God's view

Human's view of God's view vs. God's view of human's view

Coinciding

TakingUpAView

Taking up God's view

God's is unlimited, and so his structural limits are unlimited structure, which is Everything. Hence his view is given by everything, and to take up his view is to take everything as our own structural limits.

A view vs. All views

Human's view of God's view

The levels of Truth from soft to hard

Questions about coinciding

BisectingAView

KnowEverything vs. ApplyUsefully

Growth of Human

Understanding (and Love) and Structure (and Self)

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