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See also: {{Love}}, {{Coinciding}}, {{Unity}}, {{God}}, {{Human}}, NotBeingOneWith

===Being One With===

Being one with is

• sharing the grounds for definition
• including
• not being restricted by one's Self (by Not)
• including one's own perspective
• allowing things to matter
• subjectivity
• Caring
• the same as Coherence and is the nature of Spirit.
• the nature of {{God}}.
• related to GoingBeyondOneself. For God, his self (his structure - everything) arises with the first act of going beyond himself, as his self is what he goes beyond into, from the unbounded into the bounded. This going beyond himself is his act of creation.
• what expresses itself in Contexts as:
  • Spirit - beyond system
  • {{Structure}} - beyond participants
  • {{Representation}} - within participants
  • {{Unity}} - within system
• the only Mystery in that we can participate in it, but it is the only thing we can't Know

Being one with is related to the {{Coinciding}} of {{Views}}.

BeingOneWith

• Person chooses God or Self by BeingOneWith them
• Person chooses God over Self so that they are one with all, not simply those who are one with them (consider Love your neighbor as your self)
• is the assumption of Who
• being alone through another, being not alone (from our own reference point) yet being alone (from another reference point), giving up our own reference point (our own self) for that of another, thus “being” outside of the scope of our reference point, being alone from aloneness, being alone together, being one through aloneness, being alone in the context of others, persistence of a relationship across all degrees of being and not being (from Everybody (greatest Referer) to Nothing (greatest Referent)), the foundation for all relations between Persons, being by not being, NotSystem, the unity of levels, of vantage points:

===Notes on BeingOneWith from Overview===

BeingOneWith allows for NotBeingOneWith and thus arises in it and considers it a presumption of BeingOneWith, so that they are the same BeingOneWith. However, NotBeingOneWith considers itself as the negation of BeingOneWith that is overturned by BeingOneWith and is thus distinct from it.

In this way NotBeingOneWith defines BeingOneWith. This definition evolves ever more subtly until NotBeingOneWith in fact determines BeingOneWith and is the same as it. This evolution yields an AlgebraOfPerspectives, a system of lenses through which God and other look, taking up perspectives, sharing perspectives, a system in which Perspectives exist and are defined.

What is the relationship between BeingOneWith and NotBeingOneWith?

BeingOneWith provides Reference and so NotBeingOneWith is NonReference. NotBeingOneWith provides Condition and so BeingOneWith is Unconditional and satisfying Condition.

God is the one who is both unconditionally BeingOneWith (Experiencing) and conditionally GoingBeyondOneself (Understanding). He is BeingOneWith both the Unconditional and the Conditional.

With reference to God, BeingOneWith and NotBeingOneWith are states, activities, qualities. Without reference to God, and thus without reference, they are conditions, thus definitions. There is thus a distinction between the Conditional (the definite) and the Unconditional (the indefinite). Condition defines BeingOneWith as the meeting of the condition and NotBeingOneWith as the not meeting of the condition. First and foremost it is the condition of being Conditional, and in this sense the Unconditional (and God of himself) is NotBeingOneWith. Condition is negation, it is No and only conditionally, Yes.

In this way God is separated from his quality BeingOneWith and is considered as the Unconditional. The Conditional and the Unconditional are related by the two by two matrix of states:

• As BeingOneWith - Unconditional
• BeingOneWith As BeingOneWith - Unconditional BeingOneWith - Person
• BeingOneWith As NotBeingOneWith - Conditional BeingOneWith - Relationship with Person
• NotBeingOneWith As NotBeingOneWith - Conditional NotBeingOneWith - Relationship with System
• NotBeingOneWith As BeingOneWith - Unconditional NotBeingOneWith - System
• As NotBeingOneWith - Conditional

===Ways of BeingOneWith===

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The following are all ways of being one with:

• Spirit is Complete
• Structure is Unobstructed
• Representation is Familiar
• Unity is Unified

===Scope and Being one with===

One concept that I'm finding important is "scope". It allows me to consider an "X", for example, "to love X", or "to be one with X". So it is an important part of having a "calculus".

I came across the different ways to "be one with X", and I think they give meaning to the expression "be X". For example, to "be one with Nobody" is to "be Nobody". Perhaps there is also some context for the "being one with", but that same context is implicit in "be", I think. In other words, the way to "be X" is to "be one with X".

I just noticed an odd {{Recursion}}... being X = being one with being one with being one with X and so on. But this may not be so bizaare, it seems appropriate. And it may relate to that reciprocal recursion that I wrote about.

• If I am one with nobody, then I feel very sad, like Christ on the cross.
• If I am one with somebody (not everybody), then I feel most surprised, and this is romantic love.
• If I am one with anybody (not nobody), then I feel excited, a hyperflexible person in general, engaging and responding.
• If I am one with everybody, then I feel completely content, everything is right.

So these are all the same love, but ....?

===Scripture===

Gospel of John

17:1 Jesus said these things, and lifting up his eyes to heaven, he said, "Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may also glorify you; 17:2 even as you gave him authority over all flesh, he will give eternal life to all whom you have given him. 17:3 This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ. 17:4 I glorified you on the earth. I have accomplished the work which you have given me to do. 17:5 Now, Father, glorify me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the world existed. 17:6 I revealed your name to the people whom you have given me out of the world. They were yours, and you have given them to me. They have kept your word. 17:7 Now they have known that all things whatever you have given me are from you, 17:8 for the words which you have given me I have given to them, and they received them, and knew for sure that I came forth from you, and they have believed that you sent me. 17:9 I pray for them. I don't pray for the world, but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours. 17:10 All things that are mine are yours, and yours are mine, and I am glorified in them. 17:11 I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them through your name which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are. 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in your name. Those whom you have given me I have kept. None of them is lost, except the son of destruction, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. 17:13 But now I come to you, and I say these things in the world, that they may have my joy made full in themselves. 17:14 I have given them your word. The world hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 17:15 I pray not that you would take them from the world, but that you would keep them from the evil one. 17:16 They are not of the world even as I am not of the world. 17:17 Sanctify them in your truth. Your word is truth.* 17:18 As you sent me into the world, even so I have sent them into the world. 17:19 For their sakes I sanctify myself, that they themselves also may be sanctified in truth. 17:20 Not for these only do I pray, but for those also who believe in me through their word, 17:21 that they may all be one; even as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that you sent me. 17:22 The glory which you have given me, I have given to them; that they may be one, even as we are one; 17:23 I in them, and you in me, that they may be perfected into one; that the world may know that you sent me, and loved them, even as you loved me. 17:24 Father, I desire that they also whom you have given me be with me where I am, that they may see my glory, which you have given me, for you loved me before the foundation of the world. 17:25 Righteous Father, the world hasn't known you, but I knew you; and these knew that you sent me. 17:26 I made known to them your name, and will make it known; that the love with which you loved me may be in them, and I in them."

===Thoughts from Prayer===

{{A}}: Ačiū tau už viską ir noriu pabūti su tavimi. {{D}}: Aš maitinu tave ramybe, kaip motina pienu, gaivinkis.

Nevienumas

===NotBeingOneWith===

What is NotBeingOneWith?

• not sharing the grounds for definition
• the basis for Not
• not including one's own perspective
• not having things matter
• nonsubjectivity
• not Caring

Kaip esame viena?

Dievo ir žmogaus susivedimas, vienumas

• Kas yra požiūris ir koks yra Dievo požiūris? bei žmogaus požiūris? ir jų susivedimas pasiklydusiu vaiku? Išsakyti kategorijų teorija.
• Kaip žmogaus požiūriu taipogi suvokti visas sandaras? Ką jos jam reiškia ir kaip jisai jomis dalyvauja? Kaip susiveda Dievo ir žmogaus požiūriai pasiklydusiu vaiku?
• Kaip žmogaus požiūriu pažįstame, suprantame, prisiimame Dievo požiūrį?
• Kaip pavaizduoti Dievą ir jo santykį su mumis?
• Kaip priimti Dievo požiūrį?
• Koks yra Dievo požiūris?
• Kaip Dievui kiekvieną pasiekti?
• Kaip Dievą įžvelgti visakame?
• Ką reiškia būti viena?
• Kaip esame viena?
• Kaip mums būti viena?
• Kas mums trukdo būti viena?
• Kuo skiriasi Dievas, Jėzus, aš ir kiti?
• Kaip Kristus įvairiai suvokė Dievą ir meilę?
• Kaip vienumas iškyla laipsnyne?
• Ką išgyvena Dievas mumyse (aš) ir Dievas už mūsų (tu)? Kaip jų išgyvenimai susiję? Kaip tampame viena pasiklydusiu vaiku? - Pripažinti, kad Dievas neprivalomas, juo galim vadovautis (geltonasis Tu) ar nesivadovauti (mėlynasis Kitas), teigiamu ar neigiamu įsakymu, sutampame. Tad Dievą suvokti pirmiausia už savęs, už santvarkos, ir tik tada juo gyventi, tad svetimoje santvarkoje, ne savoje. Gyventi svetimu šiame pasaulyje, tad klajokliu, keliauninku, tokiu pagrindu bendrauti su kitais, geltonais ir raudonais, tad gyventi klausimais. Susigaudome, kad esame siųsti ir tai priimame širdingai, tad mūsų teisingi santykiai su Dievu. Vyksta pokalbiai tarp geltono (bendro) ir raudono (paskiro), tarp juodo (Dievo) ir kito (mėlyno). Jėzus dalyvauja abiejuose pokalbiuose, vienur kaip vyresnis raudonajam, kitur kaip jaunesnis, Dievui.
• Brėžiniu apžvelgti visas sandaras išreiškiančias, kaip esame viena, ir permąstyti, kaip iš jų išsiveda gyvenimo kalba.

Išsakyti ir derinti du pasakojimus, raudonojo Aš ir geltonojo Tu.

• Raudonasis Aš išverčia Dievo žvilgsnį, mato visumą, tad viskas yra gera, mato gerumo eigą, supranta gerą vaiką.
• Geltonasis Tu išverčia Aš žvilgsnį, jį sutinka plotmėje, tad mato jo ribotumą, jame glūdintį blogį, nepakankamumą, papildinį, supranta blogą vaiką.
• Kodėl Aš susijęs su tikėjimu, o Tu su rūpėjimu? Aš įsivaizduoja Kitą kaip kūdikį, kuriam sudaromos sąlygos, bendrystė, kad galėtų tikėti skurdžiadvasiškai. O Tu įsivaizduoja Kitą kaip griaučius, kuriem turi kažkas rūpėti, kad atsiverstų?

===Discussion===

BenoitCouture:

Would it not make sense at this point for you to feel comfortable in being empowered by our Father in heaven Who is here and now from eternity, because of our hosting Him in our personal and communal currencies?

I am asking this question because I think that what you mean to say is that you are becoming aware of how ready you have been prepared to move on in the maturity of the universal identity, with the simplicity of the potency of "The organic experience of spiritual unity".

In one of our first encounter,you asked me: "What is your key concept in life, ...the one that ties in with all of your other values in life?"

I had never thought of establishing a personal root to my life's journey through time and space, until you took me there! My spontanious answer was as I mentioned, "The Organic Experience of Spiritual Unity", and you have supported me ever since we met on the internet 19 months ago. I am one of the fishes in your personal net, that Jesus invites us to cast out as "His fishers of men"!

Your Internet catch of me is a confirmation to both of us, of His infallibility to guide us, whomever He can call His own with our complete permission, because of His Being into our being, here and now from eternity!

So now that you went ahead and stuck your neck out in the middle of humanity's core of violence, reaching as far as where ever current sanity allows to look into?!..., how about going for the Faculty of Living, where we host all human knowledge, experience, sciences and faculties into the completion of one another, from out of competition's non-sense pursuit?

• http://www.ourculture.info/http://www.ms.lt/livingbytruth/?page=BenoitCouture
• http://www.loving-god.info/http://www.ms.lt/livingbytruth/?page=QuietningSilenceOfPatientWisdom
• MonasticFamilyHabitat
• ElisabethII
• http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/classic/A5965581

The only mystery is BeingOneWith, as we can participate in that, but we can't know it, as it is prior to knowledge.